On burning the Quran

A Florida pastor has called off his plans to burn some 200 Qurans and the world breaths a sigh of relief.  According to CNN, the burning would…

…have sparked international controversy and protests in the Muslim world. U.S. military leaders said the event would imperil the lives of troops abroad.

Earlier, when it seemed that Rev. Jones was going to follow through with his plans, his hosting company had pulled his church’s web site.  The reason?

Dan Goodgame, a spokesman for the San Antonio, Texas-based web hosting firm Rackspace, told AFP the evangelical Dove World Outreach Center church had, “violated the Offensive Content section of its Acceptable Use policy.”

The policy forbids content or links to material that is “excessively violent, incites violence, threatens violence, or contains harassing content or hate speech; and creates a risk to a person’s safety or health, creates a risk to public safety or health, compromises national security, or interferes with a investigation by law enforcement.”

In actuality,  both the U.S. government, and the hosting company, are admitting that Islam is a religion of violence.  After all, it was only the expectation of violent reactions that motivated both to use whatever power they had to dissuade the reverend from burning those books.  If Islam were truly a “religion of peace”, as has been famously claimed, then there would have been no cause for concern.

One is reminded of the Danish cartoon fiasco, when a series of cartoons caused an international uproar and attempts on the cartoonist’s life.  At that time,  it became clear that the Muslim hordes were a force to be contended with and that they can shape the policies of Western nations through rioting and threats.  Although Christianity will sometimes produce individual lunatics or small congregations of oddballs, our generation has not seen violent Christian activism on a scale large enough to affect government/societal policies to any meaningful degree.

When Roland Emmerich produced his blockbuster movie, 2012, he specifically refrained from depicted the Ka’aba being destroyed even though he showed no mercy toward Christian landmarks.  His rational?

“Well, I wanted to do that, I have to admit … but my co-writer Harald said I will not have a fatwa on my head because of a movie. And he was right. … We have to all … in the Western world … think about this. You can actually … let … Christian symbols fall apart, but if you would do this with [an] Arab symbol, you would have … a fatwa, and that sounds a little bit like what the state of this world is. So it’s just something which I kind of didn’t [think] was [an] important element anyway in the film, so I kind of left it out.”

What we have here is a very disturbing pattern.  We are allowing ourselves to lose our freedom of expression because we are intimidated by Islam.  It is understandable that Muslims would be offended by the burning of a book they consider holy.  I would be offended by the burning of the Torah and, most likely, a Hindu would be offended by the burning of the Vedas.  The difference is that Islam, or at least many who practice it, is not mature enough to collectively shake its head and then move on with life.  As a result of this immaturity, the rest of the world is held in thrall by it.

Where will it end?  It is a fact that Muslims are not only offended by direct affronts to their religion but they are also offended by perceived immodesty.  Many Muslims view such “immodesty” as a license to rape non-Muslim women.  The ongoing Muslim rape epidemic in Europe will surely get worse over time – since those in power have no interest in curbing it.  In the not-so-distant future, women in Europe will experience intimidation to cover their hair or risk being assaulted.

I do not know if there is a word for “rule by the most violent group”.  If there is no such word, then there surely should be one because this trend is likely to become more pronounced over time.  The behavior we are witnessing rewards Islam for its violence.  The Florida pastor, Roland Emmerich and so many others are (unwittingly) increasing violence in the world.

Islam needs to either grow up or remain only in designated areas.  If every one of us would burn a Quran, then Muslims might be forced to grow up.  It is highly unlikely that they could decapitate all of us.  As long as only one or two people at a time dare to insult Islam, then Muslims can continue to intimidate those people into silence.  Perhaps it is true that Reverend Jones is immature and hateful.  Nevertheless, I think he was on to something.  Through the internet, which now contains hundreds of Mohammad cartoons, we were able to silence the Muslim hordes; they finally gave up on that battle.  By refraining from insulting Islam, we would reinforce the worldview of Muslims that such disrespect is unacceptable.  As a matter of fact, it is unacceptable to demand that the rest of the world refrain from insulting any particular religion.  Therefore, it can be argued that it is our duty to disrespect Islam.  This is a right that is in danger of disappearing and the only way to preserve it is to exercise it.  If, some day, Muslims learn to shrug off such insults and carry on with their daily lives, at that point there will no longer be any reason to insult Islam.

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16 Responses to On burning the Quran

  1. Erranter says:

    They’re bullies, clear and simple. Everything is offensive and they’re always on their tiptoes to pounce. You make a move and they go bezerko. You do everything you can to accommodate them and nothing appeases them. You interpret everything they do as nice and try to be understanding and how they interpret is exactly the opposite. And here we are in the West, blaming ourselves that they want to kill us. No civilization that I can think of in history blames themselves because somebody wants to kill them.

    • Bay Area Guy says:

      . Everything is offensive and they’re always on their tiptoes to pounce. You make a move and they go bezerko. You do everything you can to accommodate them and nothing appeases them.

      Which ought to tell everybody something: DON’T TRY TO APPEASE THEM!

      Don’t do it! It simply will not work. Far from being grateful that you’re trying to be understanding and accommodating, they interpret pandering as weakness at best, and condescension and disingenuous liberalism at worst.

      I recall the Southern saying (regarding blacks) that “if you give them an inch, they’ll take a mile.”

      Well, we cannot give them a centimeter.

      If there’s one thing I’ve noticed about non-whites regarding their attitudes towards whites, they respect assertiveness and toughness. Even if I come out and flat-out say that I’m a racist and that I don’t take their crap, they’ll respect that, or at least recognize that I’m not one to be trifled with.

      Show no weakness, apology, or surrender. They will pounce on it.

      And here we are in the West, blaming ourselves that they want to kill us. No civilization that I can think of in history blames themselves because somebody wants to kill them.

      I cannot think of a single group that is as masochistic and self-flagellating as white westerners. If you can think of one, please let me know.

      No other group constantly questions its own legitimacy and denies its aspirations as a people.

      In China, the Han Chinese are 90% of the population and they dominate everything. And yet you don’t hear them putting up with lectures on how “you cannot organize your interests along Han Chinese lines, because as the dominant group, your life is built along ‘Han Chinese privilege’. Only you can be bigoted, because racism = prejudice + power, etc.”

      The Han Chinese are incredibly nationalistic and don’t put up with any minority crap, even though they’re the “privileged and dominant group.”

      We white westerners, on the other hand, either indulge in or put up with the denigration of our heritage and ancestors.

      I’m sure all of you have constantly heard about how our founding fathers were all racist, slave owning, Indian killing, sexist pigs who were a bunch of horrible elitists.

      Yeah, well no founding fathers, no U.S, and no freedom of speech which allows these leftists to frequently disparage them.

      I mean, what other group viciously attacks its own heritage and founding?

      Well, I say it’s time we white westerners adopt Han Chinese, Japanese, and other non-white style nationalism and pride.

      The racial masochism has to come to an end. It’s time to stand up and fight.

  2. Annoyed says:

    Frankly muslims aren’t any different then the majority of the nonwhite populations in America and Europe.

    Blacks and Hispanics essentially do the same thing when something happens that they don’t like.

  3. Gaurav Ahuja says:

    The term, immodesty, should not be in quotes. At least ninety percent of White women have just become whores and they are proud of showing it. If you’re stupid enough to go into the middle of a Black or brown area on this planet as a person who is rich and White, you are asking to be robbed. Nobody should feel sorry for such a person that gets robbed. The same goes for White women who are basically asking to be raped. Nobody should feel sorry for them either. Neither of those things should happen but nobody should provoke such reactions either.

    Also, the fact that Muslims can stop the burning of the Quran shows a healthy sign among them. They are willing to stand up for what they believe in. The people who poke and prod for a reaction among them are not defenders of the best of the West. They are dumb, civic nationalists who think if we can those dark races to change their religion, we can magically make them just like White people. The criticism of Islam in Europe is a Trojan horse. Most of these immigrants descendants will not be Muslims within one generation. The criticism of these non-White populations needs to become overtly racial. White men need to get some intestinal fortitude and find out how to be men again.

    • Brandon says:

      What Gaurav Ahuja said….

      • Bay Area Guy says:

        White men need to get some intestinal fortitude and find out how to be men again.

        Couldn’t have said it better myself, Gaurav.

        Now if you had the answer regarding how to make that so, then we could solve many problems overnight.

        The term, immodesty, should not be in quotes. At least ninety percent of White women have just become whores and they are proud of showing it. If you’re stupid enough to go into the middle of a Black or brown area on this planet as a person who is rich and White, you are asking to be robbed. Nobody should feel sorry for such a person that gets robbed. The same goes for White women who are basically asking to be raped. Nobody should feel sorry for them either. Neither of those things should happen but nobody should provoke such reactions either.

        Bingo.

        True, rape is never permissible, and I know that it sounds like I’m using the whole “she was asking for it by wearing a miniskirt” line, but in many ways it’s true.

        If you ask for trouble, don’t be surprised when it comes looking for you.

        They are dumb, civic nationalists who think if we can those dark races to change their religion, we can magically make them just like White people.

        Exactly. It’s part of this whole belief in the “credal nation.” It’s the attitude that our nations are based on “ideas,” “shared values,” and not race, ethnicity, or nationalism.

        It’s this kind of thinking that causes naive whites to labor under the illusion that blacks and other non-whites are just dark-skinned white people with different cultures, and that if they assimilate enough, then they can become just like white people. And when assimilated non-whites (such as those who carried out 9/11, and O.J.) end up biting them in the ass, they are devastated.

        It’s this kind of thinking (as Jared Taylor pointed out in The Last Ditch), that motivated propaganda behind the Iraq War.

        (Of course, Israel was the main reason for the war, but that’s another story)

        After all, if the U.S. is a nation “based on ideas” and is not a credal nation, then surely people around the world can come to accept America’s “shared values” just like Americans have.

        And when people in the Middle East with nationalist aspirations spit on U.S. style “freedom” and “democracy,” our elites are shocked.

        I mean, how could they reject our ideas?! If we’re a credal nation, then they can also be credal nations!

        The lack of nationalism and racial consciousness can have devastating consequences.

        It’s time for white men (and I say “white men” with hesitation, because in many ways I consider “white men” to be an oxymoron) to be MEN again.

      • Bay Area Guy says:

        *and is a credal nation*

  4. FrankBD says:

    I’ve been commenting actively on another site (under another name) on which this issue has been widely discussed by both commentors and professional columnists. Almost all the columns have been condemnatory, although some have been along the lines of “this guy’s a nut and a nobody and the story is just a media creation.” What no one ever did was contribute a discussion that started “If Rev. Jones wants to protest the Quran, a better was to do that would be…” They don’t seem to think that protesting the Quran could be a legitimate exercise of free expression. And make no mistake, many of these columnists are constantly harping on human rights abuses in the Muslim world.

    Their entire outlook is based on the hate speech model — the only test of legitimacy
    is offensiveness to listeners. There’s no difference between calling a black man the n-word and saying that black people don’t suffer racism today, they suffer their self-made pathologies.

    Many commentors, although no professional columnists that I read, likened this to shouting fire in a theatre. They obviously acknowledge that the major issue here is how the dissenters express their views with violence.

  5. Portland Realist says:

    The goal of terrorism is to frighten people as a group, enough to influence them and their actions. Looks like the terrorists won huh?

    Here is an idea for a pro-western bumper sticker, it would read : “Smash the Muslim Hordes!” Much more of this nonsense and we should all put these on our cars.

    All of this fear is totally ridiculous by the way. Wasn’t the whole Muslim world going to unite and rise up against the U.S. after we invaded Iraq? Or they were to rise up against Israel for the last 50 years weren’t they? They do not because they cannot. (Or they try and fail.) We have the military might to smash them and they know it. The proxy war these Muslim governments are waging against the west through Al-Qaeda and the like is pathetic, except for 9/11 of course.

    We should attack Iran now using nuclear weapons, so the victory is decisive and the rest of the world knows who is still on top. Fear will work on those cowering stone age religious fanatics even better than it works on our own fat self righteous modern religious fanatics.

  6. Fjordman says:

    As I demonstrated in my essay On the Illusion of a Moderate Islam, the chance of ever seeing a “reformed” Islam is pretty much zero. The only viable long-term solution to this is to remove all significant Muslim communities from all Western countries.

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/08/this-essay-overlaps-to-some.html

    On the Illusion of a Moderate Islam

  7. Patrick says:

    I know in some countries there are religions that are forbidden due to being fringe cults. I think scientology is forbidden for this reason in certain countries. If they can do this for scientology then they can do it for islam. And frankly I think scientology should be allowed to be practiced. I am talking European countries.

    Let me be clear. I am against violence against muslims of any sort and I am against hating muslims and everything else but Western countries have a right to outlaw it as the they would a cult. One reason I am considering becoming a communist is because in cuba Fidel has outlawed the construction of mosques. There ae some muslims in Cuba as well as catholics jews and buddhists but in Cuba there are no mosques allowed.

    • jewamongyou says:

      Considering becoming a communist? If you agree with their beliefs – then you already are one!

      • Gay State Girl says:

        JAY
        The one good thing that the Soviets accomplished is that they outlawed Islamic fanaticism and barbaric practices in Central Asia. Today these countries are only nominally Muslim.

  8. Patrick says:

    PS I hate that the United States ended soviet rule in Afghanistan

  9. fred says:

    Non moslems aka infidels are prohibited in Mecca. The Saudi government regularly burns the sacred texts and symbols of other religions. Moreover, anyone caught publicly practicing other religions can be publicly flogged or worse.

    Moslems don’t tolerate other religions in moslem majority countries. So why should non moslems tolerate islam in theirs? I’ve heard others respond to that argument with “but that would make us as bad as them. we shouldn’t put ourselves on their level.”

    But that’s like saying, “The nazis were intolerant. So if we don’t tolerate nazis that’s putting ourselves on their level.” Only fools allow hostile ideologies to take root. Nazism is banned and Islam should be, too.

    As far as I’m concerned, if moslems want to do their crap in the countries they’ve already conquered then fine. But woe unto the moslem who puts his foot outside of a moslem majority country. If they want to flog and execute others then that is the law others should have for them as well. There’s no such thing as a moderate moslem because islam isn’t a moderate religion.

  10. Ryan says:

    Taking a light handed approach to Islam is the same as taking a light handed approach to child molesters or serial killers. As Gaurav Ahuja has claimed as my personal hatred is nothing of the kind, but rather a level headed approach to a predator in our society as well as against our civilization.

    I really think that most people don’t understand the history of Islam, and that the only reason things aren’t as bad as they used to be is because of Western military power in the last few hundred years.

    Here is a link that will give the basics of Islamic relations to the rest of the world up to modern times.

    http://www.globalpolitician.com/25885-islam-west

    “When Amr conquered Tripoli (Libya) in 643, he forced the Jewish and Christian Berbers to give their wives and children as slaves to the Arab army as part of their jizya. From 652 until its conquest in 1276, Nubia was forced to send an annual contingent of slaves to Cairo. Treaties concluded with the towns of Transoxiana [Iranian central Asia], Sijistan [eastern Iran], Armenia, and Fezzan (Maghreb) under the Umayyads and Abbasids stipulated an annual dispatch of slaves from both sexes. However, the main sources for the supply of slaves remained the regular raids on villages within the dar-al-harb [non-Islamic regions] and the military expeditions which swept more deeply into the infidel lands, emptying towns and provinces of their inhabitants.”

    After reading this long story I hope it will shine a better light on the creature that is Islam that we are dealing with.

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