Dating with Aspergers

A while ago I came across an article that really hit home with me: “Dating with Asperger’s.” Though my case is mild, it would be an understatement to say that this syndrome has hindered by relationships with the opposite sex.

But while walking up to people and bringing up random thoughts and facts relegates one to the realm of “odd” or “eccentric” in real life, this is not the case with blogging. In fact, it could be argued that this is what blogging is all about. I’d be willing to bet that a disproportionate number of bloggers have Asperger’s syndrome. I’ve been thinking about redefining Asperger’s to include blogging as one of its hallmark symptoms. That way, we can be more numerous and maybe even form our own special interest group.  We can even have our own “C.A.C.” – Congressional Asperger’s Caucus.

Full-blown autism is similar to Asperger’s in some ways. Of course, this varies with the individual. I do know that autistic men have challenges with the opposite sex; they tend to have challenges with other people in general. Do they make good bloggers? There are lots of blogs ABOUT autism, but who knows how many blogs, relating to other matters, are authored by autistic people?

I’ve always been capable of bringing up awkward facts, which fly in the face of social convention. Over time, I’ve even learned to enjoy it. It can be fun to watch people squirm, especially liberals. Is this one of my “Asperger’s traits” or is it just me? Is it even possible to separate the two? I doubt there’s any way of knowing; lots of non-Asperger’s people have natural personality traits that are often considered Asperger’s traits. This doesn’t mean they have the syndrome.

Autistic people, as well as asperger’s people, have trouble with convention. What tends to matter to us is if something is correct or incorrect, not whether it’s normal or not. Convention holds little sway over the autistic mind, until/unless that mind is trained to respect it. Learning to respect convention, in real life, is key to attracting females. In the blogosphere, however, there are few penalties for breaking with convention – but there can be rewards.

If you’re good at shocking people, you can gain a lot of attention – and attention is what bloggers thrive on. For people on the autistic spectrum, this can come naturally. But while those of us with Asperger’s can shock people with what we say, autistic people have fewer options; speaking is a challenge for them. Blogging does not present such a challenge – so some of them will unleash all their pent-up frustration (and desire to shock) through blogging.

On a related note, I’d like to comment on a blog called “Elderof Zyklon.”  The author of  ElderofZyklon’s (I’d originally thought he was autistic*) appears as if he’s compensating for what he cannot say in public. Despite his grotesquely anti-Semitic graphics (and the obviously-designed-to-shock name of his blog), I don’t consider him among the pathological anti-Semites. The pathological anti-Semites would get rid of, through murder or some other means, every single Jew on the face of the Earth if they could. For all their claims that the Holocaust is a hoax, they’d be the first to perpetrate it should the opportunity arise. They make no distinctions between individual Jews; as far as they’re concerned, there’s no difference between Noel Ignatiev and yours truly.

Does ElderofZyklon have a problem with Jews? Yes he does – just as I do. If anything, the fact that so many influential Jews are rabid, hateful, genocidal liberals bothers me more than it bothers him. But he’s made it clear that he bears no hatred toward all Jews; he reblogs a lot of my material and he comments on this blog sometimes. Do I find the name of his blog, and the accompanying graphics offensive? Absolutely. If he’d change those, he’d lose some of his shock value, but whoever he’s trying to convince would take him a lot more seriously. As for his anti-Semitic fans, their opinions are not going to change one way or the other; he’s been preaching to the choir.

In other words, though Elderof Zyklon wears a facade of Jew-hatred and venom, I don’t believe he’s all that. Underneath the facade is a human being, with legitimate concerns, who is frustrated and just wants to be heard. Hopefully, he’ll refine his blogging communication techniques and focus more on facts than on shock value.

Am I being too trusting and generous? Perhaps, but it’s something that I’ve been thinking about for a while now, and I wanted to put it out there.

*I’ve edited this post after my error was pointed out.

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34 Responses to Dating with Aspergers

  1. Wow, this is a first, thank you for your concern lol, but i hate to disappoint you here but i am not a Asperger sufferer, although i have had quacks diagnose me with ADHD,(a load of bollocks seeing that ADHD does not exist other than a sham condition), as for my comments regarding the Jewish problem, well, i do have a BIG problem with Jews, first of all Hypocrisy, wanting more than is owed to them, believing they are “chosen” (Im not sure if they really are a “race” but by their belief of being one they are destined to “rule the goyim” to “suck the milk of the gentiles”. I did not come to this decision easy, my mums side where of Serbian descent, my Fathers Northern Irish and both of my grandparents fought against the Nazis in WW2, however, as the problems of the obviously morally decaying west began to show worse to the point of unavoidable i took a intellectual mission to study and revise history inc the world wars and before, only to realize the real problems of Jewish supremacy.

    However yes you are right, not all Jews are evil, in fact many feel the same frustrations as White Nationalists, personally i believe the Jews should have a nation as all people, though where this should be needs to be revised too, and am more than happy to hear Jewish nationalists out, i was very influenced by people like David Duke and also Gilad Atzmon(A Israeli born Jew even if a major critic of Jewish identity) as well as Chess champion Bobby Fischer(A classic example of a Asperger sufferer if you need to point one out!)

    The major problem is supremacy, White women are not safe in their own neighborhoods, from threat of rape, our people are being killed while Jew and gentile Marxists cover it up, our birthrate is dropping badly, and i am sure you will agree this will only lead to one sorry outcome, a return to barbarism.

    I actually despise a white traitor far more than even any Jewish liberal, at least they serve their peoples agenda even if morally wrong, a white Marxist/egalitarian is responsible for nothing other than killing his people, even if he does not realize this, such is the fault within the white race of this altruism.

    However, the point stands that the survival of the White race is my up most concern, and i will not sway on this opinion. Maybe you are right, i may well follow Duke’s direction in the future and compromise more in terms of my way of putting out the message, however, people do respond to drastic problems via drastic solutions. I will not take this as offence, in fact you are certainly on to something about bloggers in general lol, hopefully others will follow suit!

    Elderofzyklon

  2. jewamongyou says:

    Ugh! I got you confused with oogenhand. He’s the blogger who wanted to destroy the Jews through intermarriage. Sorry about that; I’ll go back and edit this post.

  3. jewamongyou says:

    Re: Jewish soldiers. I’ve seen that. Most, if not all, of them were only partially Jewish. I wouldn’t consider them Jews, even though many Nazis would; they’ve got some sort of “one-drop rule” for Jews it seems.

  4. Not necessarily, after all, history is written by the victors. Anyhows thank you for clearing this up with me, has oogenhand replied to you?

    • jewamongyou says:

      I think he and I parted on bad terms; he’s interested in seeing the destruction of my people. I called him out on it, and haven’t heard from him since. Of course, a lot of Jews share his sentiments. I call them out too.

      • oogenhand says:

        You do understand that, unlike Judaism, my ideology allows reproduction between and Jewish men and Palestinian women, counting the children as Jews.
        Nazi boneheads consider my views to be pollution of the Aryan race.

  5. Daniel Schmuhl says:

    I have Asperger Syndrome and I’m mildly anti-Semitic despite having significant Jewish ancestry. Anti-Semitic insofar as i accept some of the things Kevin MacDonald has written. I certainly don’t think Jews should be exterminated or anything though and I appreciate many of their positive contributions.

    As an autistic person I have a lot of trouble with the whole idea of taboos and probably suffer from far fewer cognitive biases. There are studies indicating that people with ASDs behave like Homo economicus.

  6. peppermint says:

    I would also expect a sperglord to be ElderofZyklon. A normal person would use the CamelCase ElderOfZyklon, but a sperglord would use title case even though he’s running the words together. Also, from the pictures and memes, he seems to hang out on 4chan’s /pol/ board, where sperglords hang out near the crapflooding board /b/ and the weeaboo board /a/ and the pony board /mlp/.

    • peppermint says:

      also, so i don’t come off as too dismissive of anti-semitic concerns, let me just say that i wish the holocaust had happened so that 9/11 would not have. also, what’s the difference between tropicana and auschwitz? tropicana doesn’t concentrate their juice.

  7. oogenhand says:

    Reblogged this on oogenhand and commented:
    “The pathological anti-Semites would get rid of, through murder or some other means, every single Jew on the face of the Earth if they could. For all their claims that the Holocaust is a hoax, they’d be the first to perpetrate it should the opportunity arise.” Very good point. If the Holocaust didn’t happen, and if Jews are scum, Hitler would be a wuss.

  8. destructure says:

    Since Jews have historically resisted assimilation and held themselves outside the mainstream there will naturally be suspicion. People will wonder if a Jewish person’s motives are simply left-wing or whether they have a racial (read “ethno-religious”) motive not unlike Al Sharpton. Someone would be a fool to think Sharpton isn’t racially motivated. With Jews it’s not so easy to know. And if someone was ethnically motivated they may not admit it anyway.

    When people see Susan Sontag saying “the white race is the cancer of human history” or Noel Ignatiev advocate the abolition of whites it’s going to flip switches in their head to make them suspicious of anyone Jewish. Similarly, switches get flipped in Jewish heads when they read some message board screaming about Jews. Most gentiles aren’t nearly as hostile as some Jews seem to think. Most white conservatives aren’t nearly as anti-black as liberals seem to think, either. Or at least, their primary political motives are social and fiscal conservativism not race. So I’m very open to the possibility that Jews, even those prejudiced against gentiles, may have other motives for doing what they do.

    Unfortunately, pro-white sites tend to become a magnet for extreme views simply because the left has the country screwed up so tight there’s no other outlet for reasonable dissent. Of course, there appears to be plenty of anti-semitism emerging on the left as well. particularly in regards to the Palestinian question. I am NOT pleased to see Israel thrown under the bus the way the Democrats are doing. That alone should be enough to raise doubts that Jewish liberals are motivated strictly by ethno-religious concerns.

    With the recent death of Mandela, I’ve seen it pointed out that many of his advisers and supporters were Jewish communists. I find that curious when the ANC and South African government were allied with the PLO and Israel, respectively. I’m sure the situation could may have been more complicated with info we’re not privy to. But it certainly seems to contradict the claims that Jewish communists were motivated by ethno-religious concerns.

    Moreover, it was the Soviets who were trying to topple the South African government as part of the cold war against the west. And this was going on around the same time the Soviets were supporting the Arabs militarily against Israel. So it seems much more likely Jewish communists were motivated by marxism rather than ethno-religious concerns. And, if so, why blame Jews while letting Russians off the hook? Similarly, why blame Jews for the US war against Serbs in Kosovo? It was Germans who pushed it. Germans have long held an ethnic grudge against Serbs. The nazis even helped the Albanians and Croats murder half a million in concentration camps in WW2.

    Since any liberalism by Jews will be suspect (whether rightly or wrongly) I think Jews should follow the example of either the Amish or the Druze. The Amish remain neutral and stay out of politics. While the Druze generally support the majority wherever they live. Instead, non religious Jews tend to be self-righteous liberals who stir shit up. And therefore, Jews will continue to be a target as long as Jewish liberals and Jewish communists continue to to do so. It’s unfortunate that you will sometimes get painted with the same brush. Just as it’s unfortunate anyone on the right will get painted as “nazis”. Fortunately, people on the spectrum aren’t so easily deterred by smears.

    • peppermint says:

      ANC – PLO – Blue Empire

      Apartheid government – Israel – Red Empire

      This is Moldbug’s thesis on 20th century history.

      Anyway, it seems to me that most Jews are loyal to the Blue Empire, and thus seek Israel’s destruction, while some are loyal to the Red Empire because they want to see Israel succeed.

  9. anonymous2 says:

    I know this sounds EXTREMELY weird (but perfectly topical!), but I suspect autism and aspergers are in fact opposite of each other. Autistic people don’t grasp social skills at all, but aspergers types are excessively socialized; they just aren’t (yet?) selfish enough to become “sociopaths”. It looks like excessive K-selection for our culture, like a high powered sports car that needs lots of maintenance and skill to use properly. High risk, high reward, an ultra-masculine mind that tends to mature very late. Lots of composers seem to have this condition.

    Religious Jews have such a well time tested culture, and a model of the extended family, that these kinds of aberrations from the norm can be more common and well controlled than normal. But, throw them in a mercantile, commercial environment of individualism and liberty and they will “assimilate” the absolute worst aspects of it. The fourth or fifth generation is the one that gets everyone expelled from yet another country, depending on the country’s size.

  10. Nationalist says:

    I wonder if there is actually a correlation between mental illness and being Jewish? They seem to go hand-in-hand more often than chance would indicate.

    I also wonder if this mental illness is actually beneficial to the “sufferer” so technically not an illness at all.

    My personal affliction is (minor, sub-clinical, you-wouldn’t-realize-it-if-you-met-me) OCD. This makes me excellent at my job due to the attention to detail it brings.

    Jews seem to be more Asperger/Bi-polar/Paranoia and these can energize them and make them do and achieve things a “sane” person would not. Likewise homosexuality seems to be correlated with Jewishness and brings a package of beneficial traits, not least membership of a semi-hidden self-supporting community.

    What do you think JAY?

    • jewamongyou says:

      Never gave it much thought. I’m not aware of a higher incidence of homosexuality among Jews. It would be interesting if somebody did a study on this. Same with Asperger’s.

    • peppermint says:

      Jews were selected for intelligence over the past few hundred years, severely enough to raise their IQ one standard deviation relative to other Whites. The traits that they evolved are not all completely beneficial.

      With genetic engineering, we can steal their intelligence genes and make them work better.

      • Nationalist says:

        We could just kill all the stupid people. That would raise our average IQ quite impressively. (Or we could use the more subtle British method and export them to the colonies, from where they won’t trouble our gene pool.)

      • Stealth says:

        I wonder; is the Jewish median IQ really an entire fifteen points above the Euro gentile median? What about Asians?

        On the flip side of that coin, how far are black Americans behind white Americans in the IQ department? Mestizo Hispanics? I’ve seen the stats, but is it really possible to determine the size of the gap and the exact causes?

      • Tom says:

        “…severely enough to raise their IQ one standard deviation relative to other Whites”

        Not true. First, standard deviations often do not apply in broader group intelligence testing. Second, Jews supposedly average around 110 IQ. There are European tribes that have the same (Germans) or similar (within 3 points – Italians) averages. When standard deviations apply, generally the standard deviation is a 15 point spread. If the average for humans is 100, which by definition it is, then 110 is within the first standard deviation. That is to say, it’s still average intelligence. Technically, only above 115 (the second standard deviation and above) is considered above average and beyond room for error or variance toward average intelligence insofar as multiple tests given to the same person would be concerned. There is no group that, as a group, would be considered outside of the first standard deviation. However, higher calculated averages (eg: 110), even within the 1st SD, mean that there will be a percentage of individuals within that group who score higher than the highest scoring individuals in the group that averages 100. Also, the lower averaging group will max out at a lower IQ when it comes to their top 1%.

        For example, the top 1% of blacks maxes out their IQ at about 130, which is the top 2% for whites with around 100 IQ. There will be about double the number of whites, from a 100 average IQ group, at 130 IQ as there are blacks; and so it goes as we progress along the bell curve. A group with an average IQ of 110 will have even more individuals a a percentage at 130, and will also realize a higher max IQ for their 1% than will groups with a lower group average.

        “With genetic engineering, we can steal their intelligence genes and make them work better.”

        I’m going to assume that this was a joke comment made to make you sound unintelligent.

      • Tom says:

        “We could just kill all the stupid people.”

        What’s the cutoff for stupid? I wonder if your mom and dad will make the cut, or your grandmother. Seeing granny prematurely toward the great beyond in the name of eugenics and an arbitrary intelligence cutoff is hardcore bra!

        Also, are stupid comments entered into evidence for someone’s stupidity?

      • Tom says:

        “I wonder; is the Jewish median IQ really an entire fifteen points above the Euro gentile median? What about Asians?”

        You’ve got to be kidding me. The perception of average intelligence of Jews and Asians seems to be inflating at unprecedented rates. At this pace, in 5 years, Jews and Asians will have an average IQ of 125 and white people will drop 10 points.

        Stats vary by test and source. Some sources put Jews at a little over 100, and some put them as high as 110. Some sources put Germans at a little over 100, and some put them as high as 110. And so it goes for varying accounts of intelligences all over the world, by source. In general, Germans, Jews, Italians, some specific North Asian groups, and perhaps a few other European groups that I have forgotten all tend toward relatively higher intelligence averages. A 15 point swing only exists between Blacks/Aborigines and Europeans/Jews/some Asians, not between European Jewry and Europeans or North Asians and Europeans/Jews.

    • Jagdflieger says:

      @ Stealth

      I have usually seen the IQ for Jewish people given as 100 and Asians as 105. Both groups have higher IQs on average then whites whose IQ is generally given as 100. Black American IQ is usually given as 85 (!) and non-white Hispanics that of 90. Perhaps others can provide more accurate numbers.

      My thoughts regarding the Jewish question: I wish to start by stating that I believe Jews are white as has been proven by genetics, that Jewish people are on average very intelligent, hard-working and driven and that they have contributed immensely to many areas of human civilization. Being so successful it is natural that this is going to provoke some degree of resentment and animosity on the part of others that is unjustifiable and also opens the doors to a whole range of conspiracy theories that scapegoats Jewish people for every ill that has befallen the white race and its associated culture. On the other hand, it is a known fact that Jews in North America, Europe and Australia have generally used their power and influence to push a generally leftist agenda that has proven disastrous for whites and as a consiquence naturally enough has resulted in the strong current of dislike towards all Jews that is so noticeable in race-realist circles. I feel that the Jewish question should be discussed but in an intelligent, reasonable and rational manner without the wild and vicious rants that fanatics engage in as this is counter-productive and if anything only serves the anti-white agenda.

  11. countenance says:

    There are quite a few aspie bloggers.

    There aren’t enough snarky bloggers.

    Therefore, I am.

  12. Tom says:

    Autism Spectrum Disorder. The criteria for ASD, as set forth by the DSM-V, are as follows:

    1. deficits in social communication and social interaction across contexts;
    2. restricted and repetitive patterns of behavior, interests and activities;
    3. with symptoms that must be present in early childhood and
    4. limit and impair everyday function.

    To be diagnosed with ASD, individuals must realize deficits in developing and maintaining relationships, in social-emotional reciprocity, and in non-verbal communicative behaviors. They must at least exhibit two of the following behaviors: (a) stereotyped or repetitive speech, motor movements, or object use; (b) excessive adherence to routines or ritual patterns of verbal or non-verbal behavior; (c) highly restricted, fixated interests; or (d) hyper or hypo-reactivity to sensory stimuli.

    Asperger Syndrome. The DSM-IV-TR (2000) defines Apserger syndrome as a pervasive developmental disorder that is typified by specific symptom patterns. The DSM-IV-TR (2000) guidelines for Asperger syndrome diagnosis are as follows:

    A. There must be a qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following:

    1. a marked impairment in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors
    such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body postures, and
    gestures to regulate social interaction;
    2. a failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level;
    3. a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or achievements with other people; or
    4. a lack of social or emotional reciprocity.

    B. There must be restricted, repetitive, and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests,
    and activities, as manifested by at least one of the following:

    1. encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest, that is abnormal either in intensity or focus;
    2. apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals;
    3. stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms; or
    4. persistent preoccupation with parts of objects.

    C. The disturbance causes clinically significant impairment in social,
    occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
    D. There is no clinically significant general delay in language.
    E. There is no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or in
    the development of age-appropriate self-help skills, adaptive behavior
    (other than in social interaction), and curiosity about the environment in
    childhood.
    F. Criteria are not met for another specific Pervasive Developmental
    Disorder or Schizophrenia.

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